Last Monday, I had the opportunity to attend a very interesting event, organized by Advertising Week and the branding agency Team Epiphany. The subject of the panel discussion was “The New Consumer Engagement Model,” featuring an interesting group of speakers (hyperlinked names lead to their Twitter accounts):
- Marc Ecko (founder of Complex Magazine and Marc Ecko Clothing)
- Stephanie Agresta (EVP, Global Director of Digital Strategy and Social Media at Porter Novelli)
- Bonin Bough (Director of Digital and Social Media at PepsiCo)
- Garth Holsinger (Business Director for Klout.com)
- MODERATOR: Coltrane Curtis (CEO Of Team Epiphany)
The panel discussion kicked off by reviewing why everyone was there: “To effectively engage millennial consumers, brands must learn to move at the speed of influence.”
Highlights From The Event
Please note: the crowd was standing room only and I didn’t have a seat, making it very difficult to take accurate notes. If you were one of the speakers at the event and I misquoted you or misrepresented what you said at all, please contact me @RossSheingold and I’ll correct any inaccuracies.
- Marc Ecko discussed the idea that consumers always have a desire to connect to their favorite brands in a counter-culture way and the digital world is a perfect place for that. He mentioned that social media has democratized the relationship between brands and consumers.
- Stephanie Agresta was asked about the role that “traditional PR” plays in our increasingly digital world (traditional PR was not defined, but my assumption is that it means broad, press release-based PR outreach). To paraphrase, her answer was that in a vacuum, traditional PR can no longer exist. Digital and traditional integration is key in advertising, PR and marketing. The power comes from working in tandem.
- Bonin Bough talked about how much time he spends trying to turn consumer insights into brand innovations. He used their Gatorade brand’s “Mission Control” as an example. Mission control is an area of computers in a central brand space containing real-time data visualizations of online consumer sentiment about Gatorade. This ensures that everyone sees the “heartbeat” of the brand on a day to day and can focus their time and energy on products that consumers want.
- Garth Holsinger of Klout introduced the service they are providing and explained how the idea of consumer “influence” is becoming measurable and scientific. The question was asked how these consumer “influencers” don’t lose credibility when they are connected with brands. The general consensus was that “influencers” need to be open, honest and transparent, which wasn’t exactly groundbreaking information. They didn’t touch on my questions about Klout.
- In general, it was discussed how silos within organizations prevent brands from optimizing the tools at their disposal.
- Marc Ecko spoke about a recent philanthropic project he was working on that caused frustration. The not for profit organization wanted to dabble in social media, but wanted metrics for everything, which held up the entire process. He made the point that it is difficult for a business or brand to innovate when adoption of a new idea depends on metrics.
- Bonin Bough chimed in about PepsiCo’s approach to new opportunities in the digital space. They jump on the opportunity to try new platforms for consumer engagement (he used the example of Foursquare), essentially because they can. He said that a lot of brands balk at the idea of embracing Foursquare because they “only have 2 million users.” His response is that PepsiCo has a large-enough user base to contribute to the success of a platform, If it becomes another channel for Pepsi to listen to compelling consumer insights and enhance user engagement, why would they need metrics to prove its worth before jumping in?
- Bonin Bough also said that his goal is to get every one of PepsiCo’s over 200,000 employees communicating via Twitter. He said that everyone in the organization needs to be human and held accountable and Twitter can do that. I contacted him via Twitter after the event for some more clarity on the topic. I wanted to know if his goal was for everyone at PepsiCo to discuss their role at the company, or just contribute to Twitter in general. His response:
- The event ended with some of the panelists “looking into the crystal ball” at trends in the digital world that will continue to disrupt the consumer engagement model:
- Marc Ecko discussed geofencing location tools. This is essentially Foursquare on steroids, where people can only “check-in” and unlock rewards if they are within a certain distance from a location. This can lead to hyper-targeted consumer engagement, based on where people are. He also mentioned IPTV, which is essentially television over the internet. We’re already becoming more familiar with this in the form of Netflix, Boxee and Apple TV. He said to keep an eye on the space because the traditional cable powerhouses like Comcast seem asleep at the wheel and don’t realize the power of IPTV.
- Bonin Bough mentioned the idea of philanthropy and doing good with social media. He made a powerful statement: “social media is transformational and has big implications that we don’t yet realize.” He also referenced a stat about 10% of South Korean youth being at risk for internet addiction, I’m guessing to prove that the internet is shaping lives?
- Stephanie Agresta discussed the integration between advertising and social media and believes that it will get even more interesting in the next 6-12 months.
Additional Thoughts
Marc Ecko was the most “famous” person in the room, and a close friend of moderator Coltrane Curtis, so he ended up dominating much of the conversation. This led to a lot of banter that took time away from specific examples and campaigns that Stephanie Agresta and Bonin Bough brought to the table. Still, Ecko was very entertaining and you could tell he has great chemistry with Coltrane Curtis. Speaking of Curtis, I hadn’t heard of him before this panel discussion, but I’m glad I got to see him in action. He seemed genuinely loved by many people in the auditorium and is committed to creating authentic connections between brands and consumers in a fresh new way. What’s not to like about that?
Garth Holsinger didn’t do a great job of selling Klout’s services. I have become very familiar with Klout and many of his off the cuff answers to questions from the crowd weren’t well thought out, or consistent with Klout’s messaging. On the way out the door, I heard multiple people discussing how unimpressed they were with the Klout contributions (I actually overheard someone saying that his Klout score would be a 10. Ouch!) That being said, Garth had a crowd of people surrounding him during the impromptu networking session after the discussion, so he seemed to be doing just fine. In my opinion, Klout knows he isn’t the best live speaker, but he is just carrying the message that “Klout is measuring online influence.” He is an older gentleman and doesn’t seem as looped into the social media world, so he is much easier for traditional brands to approach about Klout’s services, especially since they are offering all-important metrics. Don’t get me wrong, I have met Garth and communicated with him via email - he is a good guy. I just think that others on the Klout team would have been better suited for speaking on this particular panel.
As you might be able to tell from the recap, I was most impressed with Bonin Bough from PepsiCo. He obviously “gets” the social media and digital marketing space and almost everything he said was insightful or thought-provoking. If you have an opportunity to attend an event that he is speaking at, I’d highly recommend it.
The event was held in a large auditorium at the Paley Center For Media and the crowd was standing room only. At the end of the event, they mentioned that it was one of the most well-attended ad week events, proving that businesses are eager to understand how to engage “Consumer 2.0.”


